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    Post What Exactly Is Recovery Sobriety

    What's that mean?
    Here are some common definitions of Substance Abuse Terms for your understanding.


    In in recovery terminology, abstinence is opposed to "moderation". A few recovery programs, and a number of individual psychologists and counselors, believe that it's possible for an alcoholic to learn how to "drink normally" - that is, to have just one or two drinks in social situations; never get drunk, never drink in isolation, never become dependent on alcohol.
    The most successful recovery programs subscribe to the belief that the idea of moderation is illusory. They point to statistics and a wealth of anecdotal evidence that shows, quite undeniably, that practically everyone who has become damagingly habituated to the use of any drug fails at every attempt to use that drug in moderation. Abstinence may not be the only course, but it is certainly the safest course for those who are working to overcome addiction or dependence.

    In addition to the general perception that it doesn't work, moderation as a philosophy has major problems dealing with drugs other than alcohol: how do you recommend that a heroin or cocaine addict, whose drugs of choice are illegal, use those drugs "moderately"?


    An illness in which a person seeks and consumes a substance, such as alcohol, tobacco or a drug, despite the fact that it causes harm.

    A chronic, relapsing disease characterized by compulsive drug-seeking and use and by neurochemical and molecular changes in the brain; sometimes used synonymously with "dependence."

    Uncontrollable craving, seeking, and use of a substance such as a drug or alcohol.

    Dependence on a substance (such as alcohol or other drugs) or an activity, to the point that stopping is very difficult and causes severe physical and mental reactions.


    Alcoholism is also known as "alcohol dependence." It is a disease that includes alcohol craving and continued drinking despite repeated alcohol-related problems, such as losing a job or getting into trouble with the law. Alcoholism includes four symptoms:

    Craving--A strong need, or compulsion, to drink.
    Impaired control--The inability to limit one's drinking on any given occasion.
    Physical dependence--Withdrawal symptoms, such as nausea, sweating, shakiness, and anxiety, when alcohol use is stopped after a period of heavy drinking.
    Tolerance--The need for increasing amounts of alcohol in order to feel its effects.

    Character Defect

    Even though Alcoholics Anonymous introduced the Disease Model to the world, it never quite shook the moral approach to alcoholic behavior that prevailed before. In Steps 4 & 5 of the AA program, it is suggested that the recovering alcoholic create a "moral inventory" and admit, "to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs." Then, in Step 6, the alcoholic is advised to become ready to have God "remove all these defects of character".

    The idea that alcoholic behavior is caused by "defects of character" is not universally accepted. While most recovery programs emphasize honest self-examination as an important part of the recovery process, not all of those would characterize the undesirable attitudes and behaviors that might be uncovered by such examination as "character defects". To many, in fact, the belief that one has a character defect is itself a delusion which has to be gotten over before one can lead an emotionally healthy and fully responsible life.


    "In its broadest sense, codependency can be defined as an addiction to people, behaviors, or things. Codependency is the fallacy of trying to control interior feelings by controlling people, things, and events on the outside. To the codependent, control or lack of it is central to every aspect of life.

    The codependent may be addicted to another person. In this interpersonal codependency, the codependent has become so elaborately wound up in the other person that the sense of self - personal identity - is severely restricted, crowded out by that other person's identity and problems.

    Additionally, codependents can be like vacuum cleaners gone wild, drawing to themselves not just another person, but also chemicals (alcohol or drugs, primarily) or things - money, food, sexuality, work. They struggle relentlessly to fill the great emotional vacuum within themselves.

    Also known as "codies."


    An irresistible impulse to act, regardless of the rationality of the motivation: An act or acts performed in response to such an impulse.

    When applied to psychoactive substance use, the term refers to a powerful urge-attributed to internal feelings rather than external influences- to take the substance (or substances} in question. The substance user may recognize the urge as detrimental to well-being and may have a conscious intent to refrain. These feelings are less characteristic of alcohol and drug dependence than of the psychiatric syndrome of obsessive-compulsive disorder.


    If the first step toward recovery, for most programs, is the admission that one has a problem with alcohol or drugs, those same programs see, in an individual's refusal to buy into every detail of their techniques and teachings, evidence of denial - denial that there is a problem in the first place, denial that the problem is as severe as others may think it is, denial that the individual needs help dealing with the problem.
    Treatment professionals and recovery programs that diagnose failure as the effect of denial view denial as a form of dishonesty. Others, however, are more ready to accept an individual's testimony of his or her feelings at face value and work to help the individual determine the validity of those feelings and the accuracy of his or her self-assessment. Labeling any testimony as "denial", to that point of view, does not help a person develop toward the honest and accurate appraisal of a situation that all agree to be a necessary precondition to dealing effectively with problem behaviors.


    Enabling is defined as reacting to a person in such a way to shield him or her from experiencing the full impact of the harmful consequences of behavior. Enabling behavior differs from helping in that it permits or allows the person to be irresponsible.

    PROTECTION from natural consequences of behavior.
    KEEPING SECRETS about behavior from others in order to keep peace.
    MAKING EXCUSES for the behavior. (School, friends, legal authorities, work, family members.)
    BAILING OUT of trouble. (Debts, fixing tickets, paying lawyers, providing jobs.)
    BLAMING OTHERS for dependent persons behavior. (Friends, teachers, employers, family, self.)
    SEEING THE PROBLEM AS THE RESULT OF SOMETHING ELSE. (Shyness, adolescence, loneliness, child, broken home.)
    AVOIDING the chemically dependent person in order to keep peace. (Out-of-sight, out-of-mind.)
    ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL. (Planning activities, choosing friends, getting jobs.)
    MAKING THREATS that have no follow through or consistency.
    TAKING CARE OF the chemically dependent person. (Doing what he/she should be expected to for themselves.)


    Experience, Strength and Hope.

    Face Everything and Recover

    F--kedup, insecure, neurotic, and emotional

    Fixed up beyond all recognition

    Functional Alcoholic

    Someone who can function in spite of his alcoholism (masking his disease). Most functioning alcoholics have maintenance levels of alcohol in their systems. They wake up in the morning, begin drinking up to that level and then maintain it.

    A person who appears to function in society when under the influence of alcohol. Upon closer inspection is found to have established a network of enablers who facilitate the apearance of functioning; i.e: drinking partner who is also the workplace manager, relative who transports to work, etc.

    Good orderly direction

    Hungry, Angry, Lonely and Tired.

    Honesty, open mindedness, willingness

    Higher Power

    The term is closely connected with the idea of powerlessness at the core of AA's 12 Steps. The basic concept is that individual human beings don't have the power sufficient to defeat their addiction, so they must call on a higher power - super-human or supernatural - to help them in their battle.
    Alcoholics Anonymous introduced the term "higher power" in an attempt to ease the way for people who entered the AA program as atheists or agnostics. It derives from a passage in the chapter of AA's "Big Book" entitled "We Agnostics", in which Bill Wilson writes, "Lack of power, that was our dilemma. we had to find a power by which we could live, and it had to be a Power greater than ourselves. Obviously."
    "Higher power" is a controversial term. To many religious people, the term "higher power" demeans and depersonalizes the idea of God. To people who are not religious, it may seem to be an outdated euphemism, at best; at worst, it's an evasive tactic to avoid acknowledging the religious nature of the AA program.


    A persistent, unwanted idea or impulse that can not be eliminated by logic or reasoning.
    A recurring, unwanted idea that cannot be eliminated. Obsessive ideas are often unreasonable and disturbing. Preoccupation with an obsessive idea can interfere with normal daily activities.


    An acronym for Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome. Post-acute withdrawal is a bio-psycho-social syndrome. It results from the combination of damage to the nervous system caused by alcohol or drugs and the psychosocial stress of coping with life without drugs or alcohol. The symptoms of PAW typically grow to peak intensity over three to six months after abstinence begins. The damage is usually reversible, meaning the major symptoms go away in time if proper treatment is received.
    1. Inability to think clearly
    2. Memory problems
    3. Emotional overreactions or numbness
    4. Sleep disturbances
    5. Physical coordination problems
    6. Stress sensitivity


    The first Step in the Alcoholics Anonymous program is the admission that "we were powerless over alcohol", and the concept of powerlessness is a major element in many recovery programs. The idea that the addict is powerless over his or her drug of choice is not, however, universally accepted.
    Many addiction and substance abuse experts feel that it is a disservice to the recovering person to emphasize powerlessness, that in fact it is within anyone's power to resist the urges, to give up the habits and behavior patterns that are involved with drug abuse. Some programs, such as LifeRing, just ignore the idea of power completely and substitute the concept of strength; to them, recovery from addiction involves strengthening the sober self, just as recovery from a physical injury involves strengthening the body.


    To return to an original state; "the recovery of the forest after the fire was surprisingly rapid"
    convalescence: gradual healing (through rest) after sickness or injury
    the act of regaining or saving something lost (or in danger of becoming lost).
    In terms of codependency, recovery is you regaining your own life. Returning to the original you, prior to codependent issues overtaking your life. Saving yourself.

    Alternately, here's another view of recovery;
    At any given time, there are a number of people who are working, deliberately and through particular disciplined behaviors, to end their dependence on alcohol or drugs. The term "recovery" can serve as convenient shorthand for that complex and difficult effort.
    For some, the term has a more definite meaning. Those people, usually encouraged by the programs that they are using to end their addictive behaviors, think of themselves as being "in recovery", and they contrast that state with the state of being "in relapse" - i.e. actively drinking and drugging. To such individuals, recovery is more than convenient shorthand; they view recovery as the condition in which they intend to spend the rest of their lives, and remaining in recovery, for them, is quite literally a matter of life or death.

    Sobriety lost it's priority

    Son of a b*tch everything is real
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    Deep stuff here.

    Thanks for taking the time

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    Yea Kit Im with you here! Not sure I remember them all but the HALT one is certainly important, at least for me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kitwarelotus View Post
    Deep stuff here.

    Thanks for taking the time

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    Hungry, Angry, Lonely and Tired.


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    Yea there's alot of those acronyms I think you call them....I feel when I keep sobriety in the forefront of all my life I can stay sober today after today after today.

    There's good days and bad, of course I get pissed off sometimes it's life...nothing is ever worth me drinking or using over tho...I wouldn't change my sobriety and recovery for anything in my life! It is the biggest gift I've been given, I protect it, and I try to nuture it by spreading the experience, strength and hope that I DO have to try to help other addicts/alcoholics....

    Are you doing ok mcd?? Hit me here to chat, I'm trying to stop in everyday hoping we get more members!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tdbabydoll View Post
    ... and I try to nuture it by spreading the experience, strength and hope that I DO have to try to help other addicts/alcoholics....
    And you do such a beautiful job of nurturing and support! Thank you, you're a special person.

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    We are ALL special people!!! And it's not only the bible that tells us we cannot get without giving, it's karma, it's literally common knowledge.

    If any of us who are sober can help someone get sober, we've saved someone's life....what a precious, beautiful, priceless thing to offer someone especially someone we dont truly know.

    Prayers to the addicts and alcoholics who are still suffering today....that they may find the light and the hope to find recovery and the life they were gifted. AMEN!!!


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    some are more special than others smiley-evil-villain.jpg

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    Thank you!

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